{"id":373,"date":"2011-10-02T04:52:46","date_gmt":"2011-10-02T04:52:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/moemaka.org\/wp\/?p=373"},"modified":"2011-10-02T04:52:46","modified_gmt":"2011-10-02T04:52:46","slug":"interview-with-burmese-rapper-zayar-thaw-by-khet-mar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moemaka.net\/eng\/2011\/10\/interview-with-burmese-rapper-zayar-thaw-by-khet-mar\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Burmese Rapper Zayar Thaw by Khet Mar"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In 2000, the hip-hop group Acid, of which the popular Burmese rapper  Zayar Thaw was a part, released Burma\u2019s first hip-hop album. Despite  predictions of failure by many in the Burmese music industry the album  stayed at number one   on the Burmese charts for more than two months.<br \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/uscampaignforburma.org\/zayar-thaw\" target=\"_blank\">Zayar Thaw<\/a> is also one of four founding members of <a href=\"http:\/\/pediaview.com\/openpedia\/Generation_Wave\" target=\"_blank\">Generation Wave<\/a>  a   pro-democracy youth movement opposed to Burma\u2019s military  government, that started in October 2007, following the anti-government  protests popularly known as the Saffron Revolution.<\/p>\n<p>Before he was arrested in 2008 Zayar Thaw was combining his music and  social activism   to perform charity concerts   for orphans with HIV.  He also visited the orphanages, looked after the children, and helped to  teach them English with fellow Burmese  rapper, Nge Nge.<\/p>\n<p>Zayar Thaw was arrested with five of his friends in a restaurant in  Rangoon on March 12, 2008. He was charged with forming an illegal  organization\u2014Generation Wave\u2014and sentenced to six years in prison. He  was allegedly beaten during his interrogation. Ten minutes before Zayar  Thaw was sentenced, he wrote a statement which was leaked to Generation  Wave members. \u201cTell the people to have the courage to reject the things  they don\u2019t like, and even if they don\u2019t dare to openly support the right  thing, tell them not to support the wrong thing,\u201d his statement said.<\/p>\n<p>On 20 November 2008, he was sentenced to five years\u2019 imprisonment for    illegally organizing under the Unlawful Association Act; Zayar Thaw  was given an additional year\u2019s imprisonment for possession of foreign  currency.   He served his sentence at Kawthaung prison and was released  on 17 May 2011.<\/p>\n<p> Since his release, he has participated in many social and political  activities including performing at Burma\u2019s pro-democracy leader Aung San  Suu Kyi\u2019s 66th birthday party. Aung San Suu Kyi even mentioned   Generation Wave in her <a href=\"http:\/\/downloads.bbc.co.uk\/rmhttp\/radio4\/transcripts\/2011_reith1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">2011 Reith Lecture on BBC. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>In August 2011, Zayar Thaw was banned by a police station from  performing at a fundraising concert for a senior home in Rangoon  (Yangon). I interviewed Zayar Thaw via email a week after he was banned.  In this conversation, Zayar Thaw talked about the advantages and  challenges of including political content in his songs and in Generation  Wave\u2019s activities. He also talked about his feelings on the  non-violence movement and delivered a message to international readers.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sampsoniaway.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/ZYT-Photo-by-Burma-Voice4-259x300.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"259\" height=\"300\" \/> <\/p>\n<p>      Zayar Thaw. Photo: Burma Voice<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do politics mean to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Politics are defined in so many ways. As for my own opinion,  politicians are irresponsible and are only concerned for the small  ruling group or administrative personnel. It directly affects those who  are living in that country. The government\u2019s policy and its lawfulness,  as well as its people, play a major role in the promotion and  development of that country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why did your album <em>Beginning<\/em> become so popular?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When Acid started to compose that album, our objective was very clear  and simple: We are crazy about hip-hop music and wanted to listen to it  in Burmese. We didn\u2019t want to become famous, successful, earn money, or  even to be talented musicians.<br \/> Until that time there was no real hip-hop music in Burma except for some  people who would sing small rap verses in other songs. Some people  accepted us on a certain level. However if one thinks we\u2019ve succeeded,  it\u2019s because of our craziness for this new kind of music in Burma. Its  success would also be because of support that the youth has for new  things and creative ideas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are the advantages and challenges of including political content in your songs and activities?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As you know, we (Acid \/ Generation Wave) compose and create music  with a political context. We also take some action on those topics,  within our capacities. We create songs that relate to politics, not only  in lyrics, but in their composition and performance as well. We play as  often as we can, passionately, and always try our best. One distinct  achievement is the support we\u2019ve received from the youth of Burma. These  activities increase their awareness of current political situations in  Burma. However in our country, with no basic human rights, such as  freedom of speech and freedom of expression, our activities have been  accused as crimes and some of us have been spending time behind bars.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What other activities did Generation Wave organize before you were in prison? How effective were they?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>First, I would like to explain that Generation Wave is a young  activists group. There are musicians, but most of the members are  artists, like poets and graffiti artists. Not only does Generation Wave  organize specific musical activities, but we also take part in other  political activities and campaigns, to make people aware of politics in  Burma and help inspire them to be socially active. As far as  effectiveness is concerned, I can emphasize it with our slogan, \u201cWe are  the left hand of a boxer, but the people do the knockout.\u201d The activists  in Generation Wave try to expose the feelings in peoples\u2019 hearts and  stimulate them to mobilize those feelings. However, getting the people  to participate is our ultimate goal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What happened with Generation Wave after your incarceration?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Actually, Generation Wave was founded by four of my friends. Although  my friend and co-founder Aung Ze Phyo and I had been incarcerated, the  activities continued with the guidance of the remaining leaders.<\/p>\n<p> <em>Generation Wave\u2019s video. October, 2010.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>You took the risk of being slapped with a longer prison term  and released a well-known statement ten minutes before you were  officially sentenced in 2008 . What made you write this statement?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At that time I already knew that I wouldn\u2019t have a voice for a  certain number of years. At the last minute, I expressed my sincere  feelings and said that I want people to be brave and not be afraid to  speak their minds. I released that statement to the public, especially  to the youth, to encourage them. When I did this, I was aware of what  might happen to me, but I thought that I should do something for our  people as a duty for their future activities. I   did it without any  influence or concern for the consequences.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Political prisoners in Burma are tortured without compassion.  When they tortured me I repeated to myself, \u201cThis awful time will not  be forever, this is going to end soon.\u201d \u201cI don\u2019t have to say any name of  my network.\u201d How did you face that terrible experience?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I accepted that experience as the result of the evilness of others in  my life. It is unforgettable. I do believe that if you have a  deep-seeded way of thinking and strong beliefs\u2014 and you made a clear  decision based on those beliefs\u2014then you are ready to face anything for  your rights. Your insight, willpower, and natural courage will  transcend.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did you reconsider about your social, musical, and  political life while you were spending time in prison? Did some of your  thoughts change?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I do have the habit of reflecting upon my actions from time to time,  not only when I was in prison but also in my daily life.   While I was  in prison, I reconsidered some of my past actions and I felt very uneasy  about it. I don\u2019t feel that I\u2019ve used my full capabilities to help the  country as well as the people.   So I decided that I would act more for  them when I was released.   At the present time, I try my best, although  this doesn\u2019t totally fulfill my desire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>According to a survey done by   Freedom News Group\u2014a media  outlet created by Burmese human rights organization\u201483 percent of the  youth in Burma would like to see you as a political leader. Are we going  to see you as a political leader?<br \/> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A political or national leader, whatever it may be, cannot be  declared by himself or herself. The role of leadership will be decided  by the people according to his ability, his conducts, his capability,  his loyalty, and his managerial skills etc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hypothetically, would you lead under the principles of non-violence?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I do believe in non-violence, simply because I hate violence. To  quote Mahatma Gandhi, \u201cNon-violence is the greatest force at the  disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of  destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sampsoniaway.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Suu-Kyi-Zayar-Thaw-300x197.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"300\" height=\"197\" \/> <\/p>\n<p>      Zayar Thaw has been been a bodyguard on Aung San Suu Kyi&#8217;s trips.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Since your release you have participated in some events  organized by the National League for Democracy (NLD)\u2014Aung San Suu Kyi\u2019s  party. You sang at her birthday celebration and have been her bodyguard  on some of her trips. However, you are not an NLD member. Why you are  not a party member?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As a political activist, I\u2019m not really concerned with becoming a  member of the party. One needs to be persistently aware of the people\u2019s  benefit, as well as the rights that one believes in. I have been in Amay  Suu\u2019s (Mother Suu) personal security group because I admire her and  adore her as my role model.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You are banned as a singer. What does this mean for your future?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As a musician, I will continue to write my compositions when I have  the chance, whether I get to meet my audience or not. For example, I  wrote and recorded a new song for the youth on Amay Suu\u2019s   66th  Birthday Tribute Album. As for banning me as a public singer, I take it  as the Authorities doubly punishing me. This just highlights the lack of  freedom of expression in Burma.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you want to say to readers who are going to read this interview?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Burmese people want to be ordinary people who live peacefully and  simply in their daily lives. We are not asking for a  more-than-normal-well-being with aggressive and greedy desires. We are  demanding our basic human rights, which people in every part of the  world have. I want you to know that Burmese people are still struggling  and suffering under the oppression of its rulers in southern Asia, while  people in other parts of the world are freely discussing and arguing  about their future plans and other activities. If you realize those  conditions and it makes you feel compassionately towards us, than I am  very thankful for this interview.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<h1>\u00a0Burmese Rapper Zayar Thaw: The Left Hand of a Boxer<br \/><\/h1>\n<p>\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sampsoniaway.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zayar-thaw-changed-300x226.jpg\" border=\"0\" width=\"300\" height=\"226\" \/> <\/p>\n<p>Burmese Hip-Hop singer Zayar Thaw. 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